we have got ryan. we have got rubio. we have got the governors, there is a whole young generation of conservatives who can make the case that will be the test. although i will say that if liberals keep winning elections, then your theory of a fundamental change in the change of the electorate and the sense of dependency at which point it becomes a point of no return would be right. i'm just saying we he don't know history will tell us. >> bill: there is something wrong with we the people. there is something wrong now in this country. in the election of 2010 of the tamera emerged and republicans did well. they took the house back from the democrats and the surge was to the right and to a smaller government, more responsible government. that evaporated so quickly in front of my eyes and your eyes all of the momentum evaporated. it all went away in less than two years. i don't know why, that's on the folks, is it not? >> no. i think, in fact, i think that's an argument for the other side and i will tell you why. you can't g